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Hi Cliff, i have been wondering when the next version of the courseware is going to be available. been dying to get started and feel i am being held back because the courseware has been removed from the site. Cant i get a copy of the old version to get started with. I feel stuck and dont know how to proceed. Thanks for your time concerning this

K

Kofiaddaquay,

The courseware is in the process of being overhauled. In addition to being updated for Flex Builder 3 and PureMVC 2.0, I'm incorporating  all the feedback and suggestions from the beta test group - nearly 600 submissions altogether.No small job.

In the meantime I'm preparing al the demos and docs for PureMVC 2.0, as well as trying to get the site and project owners ready to present the 30 or so projects in the repository to the world when 2.0 is released.

The problem with leaving the courseware link up is twofold. 1 processing 20 people into the program per day was getting very time consuming and 2 sometimes people would sign up but not start until a few weeks later. That means that at when 2.0 is released the courseware will be out of date but people will still be just starting to use it.

So I had to take it down for now. I hope you can understand my dilemma.

It was the very best learning resource, though, so I'm keen to get it back up there.

For now contact me directly and I'll help you out.

-=Cliff> 

Thanks for the quick response. I understand..and shall be patient then and relay any question i have thru the forums. Thanks Cliff

Kofi

Cliff,

I can see things are moving along given the amount of changes on your site, but I was wondering if you have a target date for the courseware yet?

Thanks.

Its good to know its so eagerly awaited :)

Its high on my list but not being independently wealthy, other pesky things make it difficult to set an exact date, namely work :(

It is extremely important, so as they say in Jamaica 'Soon come, soon come, Mon'

-=Cliff>

Hi, I see the last reply was about 6 months ago.

Just wondering if there is any update on the courseware - I appreciate work may still be getting in the way :)

Yes, this whole 'living in only one universe at a time' thing is really causing things to pile up. Today is my official day for working on it this week...

-=Cliff>

Great!

>this whole 'living in only one universe at a time'...
Maybe that'll change next month when they ramp up the LHC (http://www.lhc.ac.uk/) ;)

really looking forward. thanks Cliff

K

Not to be pushy Cliff but anything new on this? ;)

I wish there was. It is extremely hard to pull off in spare time. I get about one full day for it every two weeks. At least when its done I'll be able to refer to it as 'the eagerly awaited courseware' :)

-=Cliff>

I wish there was. It is extremely hard to pull off in spare time. I get about one full day for it every two weeks. At least when its done I'll be able to refer to it as 'the eagerly awaited courseware' :)

-=Cliff>

The beta was by far the best single source for PMVC development I have read to date (outside of source code, but it would have been hard to get through that without the courseware)

You need to work on cloning yourself dude.

Yeah, I was talking to some guys at the LHC about this cloning problem and they thought they had it sussed; something about slamming tiny universes together while holding their tongues at just the proper angle of right ascension...

But of course, at the last minute a giant magnet fried or something.

Its so hard to find good help these days. Oh well, back to the drawing board I guess.

-=Cliff>

Drooling for the demos,
best way to learn  ;D

ribs -> nudge :)

Hi everyone,

I'm absolutely new to PureMVC and have read the Best Practice doc.

Everywhere I go, users refer to CourseWare as being the "bibles" of PMVC and the best docs to learn from.  Not having them due to version change means that anyone new to PMVC can't really do much as the tutorials and demos out there offer a very steap learning curve.  :-\

Where can I go to start getting my head around this framework?

Thanks,
-fra

The fabled coursware is in fact in existence, but under construction at the moment.

The courseware however, simply expands on the Framework Overview and Best Practices documents, expanding that same actor by actor presentation with code labs, and specific learning points.

So, until the courseware is available, I suggest starting with the documents in the Docs section of the site, followed or combined with examination of demos such as Employee Admin and others.

-=Cliff> 

woof !

Kofiaddaquay,

The courseware is in the process of being overhauled. In addition to being updated for Flex Builder 3 and PureMVC 2.0, I'm incorporating  all the feedback and suggestions from the beta test group - nearly 600 submissions altogether.No small job.

In the meantime I'm preparing al the demos and docs for PureMVC 2.0, as well as trying to get the site and project owners ready to present the 30 or so projects in the repository to the world when 2.0 is released.

The problem with leaving the courseware link up is twofold. 1 processing 20 people into the program per day was getting very time consuming and 2 sometimes people would sign up but not start until a few weeks later. That means that at when 2.0 is released the courseware will be out of date but people will still be just starting to use it.

So I had to take it down for now. I hope you can understand my dilemma.

It was the very best learning resource, though, so I'm keen to get it back up there.

For now contact me directly and I'll help you out.

-=Cliff> 

I think it would have been great if that courseware has just been left here so that somehow the others like me who may benefit from it would do so despite it being on the verge of being outdated with the newer version.

To anybody here who had the old courseware:  I'd like a copy of it please
Thanks

Yeah, some tutorials would really be great... No offence, but the examples I see posted are everything but not helpful... I'm not a beginner but the framework is confusing as hell... Each example is twisted as hell and it just creates more confusion than actually a starting point...

Everyone uses the framework in his own way and from what I've read, almost no one is using it correctly... 90% of the examples are going against the PureMVC best practices... each discussion I've read has stuff like "ohh, you shouldn't have took that approach, it's not good the do that and that and that" but the example is still there and it's still uncorected ( at least from what I can understand ).

The documentation and the whole site is really lacking on "Intro to PureMVC, simple example for Dummies". I really can't get my head around all that mess... The only app I found helpful is the HelloFlash app and I wanted to create a fast test myself with a login form, but when I took a look at the LoginForm app then I got totally confused... nothing seems the same there, not even the idea, nothing...

It would help the community a lot if we'd finally get some Step By Step tutorials on how to start using this framework from the ground up... Looking at examples from X people isn't helping ( at all ), mainly because 90% of the examples continue in the Discussion area with "you should have done that like that... and like that and like that" but without a single piece of code to understand the difference between what's bad and how should it be corrected...

The framework itself is looking really good, but the lack of documentation and especially examples brings it down a lot...

Just my 2 cents. I really hope some actual tutorials and basic examples will be posted soon.

The beta testers were under NDA and are not allowed to share those materials. The courseware is not, itself open source.

-=Cliff>

Ooops! My my am sorry Cliff.
My apologies.
Will be waiting for the next release of the courseware then.
More power there!
Would you mind givin' us eager-waiters some tentative sched for the release?
 :D

Well I really do wish I could do that but right now, I have no ability to schedule something that requires this much effort. Why? Because I'm not paid to do it so I can't just knock off for 6 months and do it. And it is also not tractable to putting in a few hous a night on because it is a massively involved process. 

I have to have a whole weekend to make any perceptable progress.

Just know that it is on my plate and I'm working on it.

-=Cliff>